September 2000 -- Why a Second Hashgacha?
Why a Second Hashgacha? When One Mashgiach is not Enough by Rabbi Yosef Wikler |
I had attended the chasunah of his son the night before, so I was surprised to hear from my good friend Yitzchok the very next day. "Mazal Tov. The wedding was beautiful. By the way, the reason for your call?" "My family is making sheva brachos in four days at the ____ Restaurant, a dairy restaurant in Brooklyn. I have heard that while they are careful about many things, they are not responsible enough about bishul akum (non-Jewish cooking). If that is so, Im in trouble. My family has invited nearly 100 people, and my mechutanim are very frum. Besides, I dont want any compromises either." Such was the call and the challenge. If I told Yitzchok that hes correct, then the restaurant is out 100 portions, and maybe Yitzchoks family is out a good bit of money and urgently in need of a replacement hall. If I hold back what I know, then I am guilty of complicity. "Reb Yitzchok, it is true. The restaurant is up to par with products, but there are two matters to be cautious of. Being a dairy restaurant with a shomer shabbos owner, the kashrus agency has no mashgiach assigned, not temidi and not yotzei venichnas, unless you call a once a week visit as having a mashgiach. This means that bishul akum and insect infestation of vegetables are real concerns. In fact, this store has been found to suffer from both of these problems." "What am I to do!?!" Yitzchok begged of me. "In this case, I recommend a private mashgiach. I will send you one of my talmidim, a graduate of our Mashgichim Training Program. He will visit the restaurant about 10:30 AM to turn on the fires, watch the "prepping" (when salads are made, soups are cooked, etc.), and then return around 5:30 for the cooking of the main courses. Reb Yitzchok, even this would not be possible if the basic kashrus were not in order; but, as I have direct information from the KIC (Kashrus Information Center) about this restaurant, I know that we can do it." Indeed, with an extra mashgiach--I should say, "with a mashgiach," as none was present from the hashgacha agency--we were able to cover the affair. Had it been another restaurant, I might have suggested cancelling the affair altogether. Our next story has a different ending. |
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Wedding Rescheduled My dear friend was getting remarried, a most happy occasion. Only one problem, though: he had selected a hall on Long Island with poor kashrus supervision. The owner, a non-observant Jew, has always been known to be suspect in kashrus. He has a hashgacha, but one not sufficient to control the problems involved. The owner always had the keys to the rooms where the food is stored. Recently, under pressure, a new certification was added, but... I told Mendel that he should look into a private mashgiach. It would not be cheap--$700 at the bare minimum--but that would include many hours stretched out over several days, and the rav whom I had recommended is a top-notch rav hamachshir on his own right. The mashgiach met with the caterer and spoke with the choson, and then finally he called me. I could tell that he was reluctant. "I can do it, but I cant take pride in it. There is something wrong here. My sixth sense as a mashgiach is telling me not to certify this affair. Maybe it was something in the caterer's look at me when I asked him questions. Did this owner ever have the keys to the food?" "Yes. Only recently did he relinquish them to his mashgiach, a man who has worked for him for over 20 years." "No, I wont do it. The choson can get someone else. I wont do this one." To his credit, Mendel refused to look for someone else. He said to me, "If a man will pass up $700 and tell me that he cannot do the affair, then I will have to find another hall and lose my deposit." The wedding was rescheduled, and took place in a well-respected hall with a caterer whose rav hamachshir has a mashgiach temidi (even though the owner is shomer shabbos.) |
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The Dinner She had called about the same time last year. It seems that the Orthodox organization with which she works has scheduled their dinner for several years now at a New York hall utilizing a caterer from out of the area. The kosher certification is definitely not high quality. She knows that, but this year she called with a question. "Could we arrange a private hashgacha behind the scenes?" I have been party to many such arrangements over the years, but this one would be a big undertaking. Kosher supervision, like many professions, charges by the hour. This one was bound to entail many hours for the mashgiach. "I cant guarantee that it will work. (I remembered Mendel and his disappointment.) However, it does not take much to try. I advise that we have someone investigate whether it can be done and at what price. Initially, youll have to pay the rabbi about $200 for his time. He will visit the caterer's facility and see if it is feasible there. Then hell see the hall and see what it needs in order to be kashered and for the dinner to be properly covered. "He will then speak to the kashrus agency to see how they plan to do the event. Only then can he advise you whether he feels that the affair can be properly covered by an independent mashgiach, whether he can handle it alone, at what price, and whether the kashrus agency has assigned enough men to properly cover the affair. You are looking at a minimum of $500-700 for the mashgiach himself, and then I cannot tell you how many additional mashgichim might be necessary. Realize that this rabbi, in addition to his earlier trips, needs to be at the production in the caterer's commissary and then oversee the kashering at the non-kosher hotel-and, if need be, add on any things the kashrus agency is leaving out; possibly a significant amount-and then remain for the affair." As this goes to print, I have not heard again from that caller, and so I must assume she ate at home again this year. Maybe next year someone will get the message. |
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Rabbi Katz Rabbi Katz is a freelance mashgiach. The members of at least one Brooklyn shul keep him active. Their rav demands of these congregants that they have a mashgiach at every affair. Since most of New York's frum caterers don't have a mashgiach working when they cater in their own facilities-a shocking fact that most people aren't aware of-the rav requires his members to hire Rabbi Katz or someone else for their semachos. I met Rabbi Katz while he was working at a wedding in Williamsburg. He seemed rather relaxed and certainly not overworked. I thought hed have a few minutes, so I asked him. "Rabbi Katz, what is your job at this affair?" "To be quite honest, I have nothing to do tonight. This place is the easiest of all my jobs. True, the kashrus agency has no mashgiach here tonight, but the caterer himself works every affair in the kitchen. He doesnt stop! He attends to every fire. He can see everywhere in this kitchen at once. It is the easiest job I have. "Now the _______ Hall is a different story. There, I cannot see how they have an affair without a mashgiach. There is no Jew in the kitchen during the affair. Fires go out, and I am the only one there to relight them. In that hall I earn every penny I get paid and then some. It really keeps me on my toes. I do not understand how anyone makes a wedding there without hiring a private mashgiach." Why New York? Only in New York do you have over fifty different certifications working in the same small area, each with a different degree of supervision. On 13th Avenue in Boro Park alone there are over forty kosher establishments within 18 blocks. These establishments are supervised by over fifteen different hashgachos. Do you really believe them all to be the same? "Out-of-town," the local vaad controls everything, very often even having control of a kosher kitchen at a fancy hotel. This does not exist in New York. If a kashrus agency cannot have a mashgiach temidi at a restaurant, then they do not truly control kosher there. Thankfully, the wave of the future is for a mashgiach temidi in all restaurants, meat and dairy alike, and from what I have seen, it's the only way to guarantee reliable standards for the consumer. A four page story in the September 2000 issue of KASHRUS Magazine. |
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